Federal court decision relists gray wolves

[dan]

Pretty sure this would be done by judges appointed by Obama.... Like most issues wolves is divided between Liberals wanting to hug them, and Conservatives wanting to control them.

[JohnnieU]

This judge was appointed by Obama in 2010 and was appointed to a commission which elevated her status by G.W. Bush in 2004.

The article on US Sportsman's Alliance states that this decision was fought by the Department of the Interior and U.S. Fish and Wildlife service along with a coalition of the usual private groups who work for sportsman's rights. So the official policy of the executive branch is that Great Lakes Wolves should considered a separate population and delisted. This has been the policy since the Clinton administration, which I never considered a friend to sportsman.

The judges appointed by presidents push their agenda for years after they have left office and are often forgotten until a terrible decision arbitrarily changes the law based on a personal belief system. It's just another reminder that elections matter.

Liberal vs Conservative is too simple, it's really urban vs rule. Conservatives are usually better at protecting sportsman's rights, but rural voters are usually conservative so if they are in-touch with their constituents they will protect sportsman. I would be more likely to trust a Democrat from Montana than a republican from New York City to protect my hunting rights, since that Montana Democrat will have to answer to a bunch of sportsman and farmers when he/she is seeking re-election. As sportsman we need to know exactly how a candidate stands on our rights and if they have no experience hunting, fishing or farming we can assume they will not understand us so it's our job to let them know what we want and that we vote.

[Uncle Lou]

I just heard this today. The sad part for both sides is that when we as sportsmen and women put a season on something we have just ensured its long term survival. Conseravationist/hunters have never, in the modern era, hunted a species to extinction.

Those that live with wolves will likely take matters into their own hands, while the limousine liberals continue to get unintended consequences and wonder what went wrong with their great central planning.

[mihunter101]

JohnnieU is a smart man. It's the candidate, not the Party we need to concern ourselves with. Party politics is a lose/lose for the voter and our Country, no matter which Party you align yourself with.

[matt1336]

I believe that this law will fall on deaf ears. The farmer is going protect his income, at least I hope he would. As a Price county land owner.....I'll have to make my own decisions if/when I see a wolf. I hope that others do as well.

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[Trailcamaddict]

No surprise the government would listen more to the insurance companies and anti-hunting groups rather than the landowners and hunters. This is just another brick in the wall. Lets tear down that wall!

Actually the government took them off the list. This ridiculous action was taken by a judge that ruled the delisting by the government was not legal.

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[Zap]

Every time I look at the title to this thread my minds eye reads it a gay wolves.....

Must be the federal court ruling phrase.....

[Longbow]

I always remember what a thoughtful old trapper told me about 20 years ago. He said " You know ,the worst part about protecting wolves completely, when they're not endangered , is that they aren't actually doing the wolf a favor."
What he was getting at is that the people who actually live with these animals have a limited tolerance for them. By not allowing people to harvest any wolves you are guaranteeing that people will eventually get fed up with them and come to hate them. Instead, if you have even a limited harvest season and treat them as a unique hunting/trapping opportunity , then more people would support them being there.
I for one am not a wolf hater. I like the idea of having a reasonable population on the landscape. But I want them treated as a big game animal with a season to pursue them. I was incredibly fortunate to draw a tag and harvest a WI wolf this fall and it was a great experience that I would love to do again .

So I've been asking myself ,why do the fuzzy wuzzy wolf huggers want such a large population of wolves? I believe its because they know what an unmanaged wolf population would do to big game herds, namely decimate them into a shadow. And just how many hunters will there be with very little left to hunt?

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[Zap]

there is a reason these things were exterminated once before.

[Dutch]

Yea I heard about this. My brother lives in Utah and WLF is having major issues with wolves. They are looking at importing jaguars to combat the wolf issue. sounds crazy but seems to be the only way they can fight the environmentalist

I use to work with a guy that grew up in the Bahamas. Can't remember what island. Anyways they had a very large rat problem. The rat's number one prey was there chickens. Feasted on them left and right. To combat this problem the government got the bright idea of importing mongooses to eat the rats. Well needless to say they didn't have to worry about feeding there chickens anymore.

[kurt]

This is so disappointing

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[PLB]

sss

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[rutnbuck]

Maybe take my 3 wolf preference points and put them as my bear points.

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[trapper57]

This sure won't help the northern deer herd recover.
I wonder how the DNR will adjust the deer regs for this?
Really going to be hard to win this battle with the people we have running the country right now.
We need to contact our state representatives and voice our concerns.

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[headgear]

Pretty sure this would be done by judges appointed by Obama.... Like most issues wolves is divided between Liberals wanting to hug them, and Conservatives wanting to control them.

The funny thing is it was the Obama admin that pulled the wolves off the endangered list but an Obama appointed judge that pulled them off again. This kind of came out of no where, have to imagine there will be some push back by the states.

If politics weren't bad enough bias judges might be even worse.