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Pike and Muskie

Postby dirt nap giver » Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:16 pm

I know from past post that there are a few Esox junkies on here. If you would, please tell me where most of your literature or media education has come from.
I know that this is two part, information and proper application(book smart/ lake smart).

I just started Muskie fishing last year and have acquired 90% of the tools needed. Now need to increase my knowledge of the species to a deeper level.
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Re: Pike and Muskie

Postby Dewey » Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:33 pm

I recommend Musky Hunter magazine. Great source of info from some of the best musky guys out there. I especially enjoy Joe Bucher's moon secrets updated with peak times in every issue.

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Postby BassBoysLLP » Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:42 pm

Books first, online forums to fill in the gaps, guides to teach you the finer details of a specific disipline. You can learn a ton from a good guide.

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Postby dirt nap giver » Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:46 pm

Dewey wrote:I recommend Musky Hunter magazine. Great source of info from some of the best musky guys out there. I especially enjoy Joe Bucher's moon secrets updated with peak times in every issue.

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Thank you sir! One of my next questions was to address the moon theories.

Any thoughts on Muskies Inc?

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Postby dirt nap giver » Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:50 pm

BassBoysLLP wrote:Books first, online forums to fill in the gaps, guides to teach you the finer details of a specific disipline. You can learn a ton from a good guide.

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Any books or forums in peticular?
Are there tips or insight to nailing down a good guide. I would do that in a heart beat. Heck! Just a few days with one would pay for itself in unproductive trip trade.

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Re: Pike and Muskie

Postby Dewey » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:19 pm

I have a pretty extensive collection of books and videos on musky fishing. If you want I can list some of the best ones later when I get a chance.

Musky Hunter also has an online forum. It's not near as busy as this forum but I still pick up things from guys there. We have some pretty accomplished musky guys here and hope they chime in. Steve Heiting is the managing editor over there at Musky Hunter and is also a Beast member.

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Postby dirt nap giver » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:00 am

Dewey wrote:I have a pretty extensive collection of books and videos on musky fishing. If you want I can list some of the best ones later when I get a chance.

Musky Hunter also has an online forum. It's not near as busy as this forum but I still pick up things from guys there. We have some pretty accomplished musky guys here and hope they chime in. Steve Heiting is the managing editor over there at Musky Hunter and is also a Beast member.

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Based on what I've read, it seems as though I need a similar approach to Muskie fishing as mature buck hunting.

Any information an accomplished Muskie fisherman can lead me to would be well appreciated.

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Re: Pike and Muskie

Postby Bucky » Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:42 am

dirt nap giver wrote:
BassBoysLLP wrote:Books first, online forums to fill in the gaps, guides to teach you the finer details of a specific disipline. You can learn a ton from a good guide.

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Any books or forums in peticular?
Are there tips or insight to nailing down a good guide. I would do that in a heart beat. Heck! Just a few days with one would pay for itself in unproductive trip trade.

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Where do you want to fish?
Northern WI or Green Bay I would hire Bret Jolly
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Postby BassBoysLLP » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:11 am

dirt nap giver wrote:
BassBoysLLP wrote:Books first, online forums to fill in the gaps, guides to teach you the finer details of a specific disipline. You can learn a ton from a good guide.

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Any books or forums in peticular?
Are there tips or insight to nailing down a good guide. I would do that in a heart beat. Heck! Just a few days with one would pay for itself in unproductive trip trade.

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Books
The Complete Guide to Musky Fishing by Saric and Heiting covers the basics the best. http://www.amazon.com/The-Complete-Guid ... B000MLBEKW

Muskies on the Shield is a good overall read, even if you don't spend a ton of time in the shield.

Other notables include:

Crankbait fishing by Joe Bucher
Bucktail fishing by Joe Bucher
Secrets of a Musky Guide by Tony Rizzo
The Secret Method by Tony Rizzo

Not as much tactical, but Time on the Water is a spectacular read for the working man. It is one of most inspiring pieces of fishing literature I've ever read.

Forums
http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/category-view.asp
http://www.muskyhunter.com/forum/
Facebook has a lot of indirect information

Guide
I'm not familiar with MI guides. Maybe Bridge has some input...
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Re: Pike and Muskie

Postby Dewey » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:34 pm

I have all of those books BassBoysLLP! :lol:

Time On The Water gets read every year. Gives me inspiration on tough days.

Just got back from a week of musky fishing. Be careful once you get hooked it's hard to fish for anything else. Like they say "all other fish are just bait". ;)

The best book I have by far is Musky Strategy by Tom Gelb.

Nothing like 50 years of musky fishing experience and he is not afraid to share his secrets.

Order this book. You won't be sorry.

http://www.amazon.com/Musky-Strategy-To ... 0692018328

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Re: Pike and Muskie

Postby Rome » Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:32 am

Being active in a local musky club like Muskies Inc can speed up the learning curve quite a bit. Since joining the board of my local chapter, I've shared my boat and hopped in boats of others and have learned a ton. Just like mature buck hunting, you have to have an open mind and be willing to try new things. I've learned what I'm good at and also what I need to work on by fishing with other people.

The one piece of advice I like to give newbies to the sport is to fish deeper. Most guys are used to fishing bass and pike up on the weed flats. I notice it's hard for guys that are converting from those kinds of fish to muskies because they just aren't fishing deep enough. Get you boat at least a casting length out from the outside weed edge. Next time through, go even another cast length out. And, don't be afraid to get out in the open water basin. They are out there, and that's where a lot of the big girls spend a lot of time.
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Re: Pike and Muskie

Postby BassBoysLLP » Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:31 am

Dewey wrote:I have all of those books BassBoysLLP! :lol:

Time On The Water gets read every year. Gives me inspiration on tough days.

Just got back from a week of musky fishing. Be careful once you get hooked it's hard to fish for anything else. Like they say "all other fish are just bait". ;)

The best book I have by far is Musky Strategy by Tom Gelb.

Nothing like 50 years of musky fishing experience and he is not afraid to share his secrets.

Order this book. You won't be sorry.

http://www.amazon.com/Musky-Strategy-To ... 0692018328

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I haven't read that one. Thanks for pointing it out!

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Re: Pike and Muskie

Postby dirt nap giver » Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:29 pm

Bucky wrote:
dirt nap giver wrote:
BassBoysLLP wrote:Books first, online forums to fill in the gaps, guides to teach you the finer details of a specific disipline. You can learn a ton from a good guide.

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Any books or forums in peticular?
Are there tips or insight to nailing down a good guide. I would do that in a heart beat. Heck! Just a few days with one would pay for itself in unproductive trip trade.

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Where do you want to fish?
Northern WI or Green Bay I would hire Bret Jolly

For now it will have to be W Michigan.

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Re: Pike and Muskie

Postby dirt nap giver » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:03 pm

That's what I am looking for guys. There seems to be some "okay" instructional videos out there and since I am moving forward with this, I would rather apply my money off referrals.
Looks like Christmas, birthday and Father's Day presents are taken care of for this year.
Thanks.

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Re: Pike and Muskie

Postby dirt nap giver » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:04 pm

Dewey wrote:I have all of those books BassBoysLLP! :lol:

Time On The Water gets read every year. Gives me inspiration on tough days.

Just got back from a week of musky fishing. Be careful once you get hooked it's hard to fish for anything else. Like they say "all other fish are just bait". ;)

The best book I have by far is Musky Strategy by Tom Gelb.

Nothing like 50 years of musky fishing experience and he is not afraid to share his secrets.

Order this book. You won't be sorry.

http://www.amazon.com/Musky-Strategy-To ... 0692018328

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Rather be hooked on that, than booze, gambling or dope.

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