rutjunkie wrote:Joe sounds like i should be switching from sst loads. Might have to try some barnes out. Would you care to elaborate on how much powder and trajectory you are getting. Seems like i always learn something from your post
rochester coops wrote:I saw your coat in the other thread, and was going to ask you about it. That is awesome! Just wondering though if you think someone could just buy a fleece jacket and stitch the hides to the outside instead of making the entire coat? Also, on the bullets, are those the Barnes Spit-Fire MZ or the TMZ with the plastic tip? Really appreciate the detailed write ups you give us!
Sure guys. I am shooting the 195 gr .400 Expander that has a B.C. of .17 I believe. I wish Barnes made the Spit Fire in .40 diameter, it would have a better B.C. But the expander is the only one made in the 195 gr .40 cal size I believe.
Some people freak out over shooting that "small" of a bullet at a deer, much less at long range, but to me that's still a big bullet and its a well made bullet too. And I am pushing it pretty darn fast. There is a big difference between lobbing 300 gr bullets at deer @ 1800 fps and what my gun is doing @ 2200 FPS muzzle velocity.
I have heard the rule suggested that you should have at least 1,000 foot pounds of KE at impact for a deer bullet. According to my balistics calculator I had 717 foot pounds of KE at 230 yards on this buck. Even this "small" 195 grain muzzleloader bullet, is still a big bullet, and its momentum (not so much KE) still can break shoulder bones at that range. My bullet penetrated through about 24" of soft deer tissue as he was quartering away, dead centered a rib and then cracked the off side shoulder blade which is where it lodged. It certainly doesn't drop deer on impact but very few muzzleloader shots do that with any load. I know it will get the job done.
Here's the stats on the load:
110 gr of Blackhorn - muzzle velocity of around 2200 fps, haven't shot through a crono but the trajectory fits that velocity which is published for that load.
100 yds +3"
200 yds -4.5"
300 yds -31"
I used to shoot 120 grains of blackhorn, and got a bit more velocity, but slightly worse accuracy....maybe 3/4" groups @ 100 yards instead of 1/2" if I was doing my part on a good day off sandbags obviously.
As you can see the bullet starts dropping like a rock beyond 200 yards. Nobody has any business shooting out that far w/o a ton of practice before hand and a ballistic reticle is just about mandatory. I have slowly worked out to taking shots on deer at longer ranges over the past 10 years.
By the way, yea I was seriously considering buying a jacket liner and stitching the coyote fur shell to it. I decided not to just because to get a good fit, I would have had to take the jacket liner apart and use that as a pattern for the fur, then stitch everything back together, which was as much work as doing it all from scratch. I wanted them to fit together well not be missmatched. The fleece liner I put together using a sewing machine so that didn't take very long.