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Should this count??

Unread postby JShea » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:33 pm

Here's the story on the new PA archery typical buck taken this past season.
Curious on every ones thoughts on it.
http://redirect.viglink.com/?format=go& ... ery-record


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Re: Should this count??

Unread postby SamPotter » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:28 am

JShea wrote:Here's the story on the new PA archery typical buck taken this past season.
Curious on every ones thoughts on it.
http://redirect.viglink.com/?format=go& ... ery-record


Geez, I read about this deer before but this is the first time I read about finding it 41 days after he shot it. It should not go in the books as an archery kill, just a found/pick up.
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Re: Should this count??

Unread postby Southern Man » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:49 am

I didn't read the whole story but can he prove he killed it?
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Unread postby matt1336 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:55 am

I don’t think so. If another buck would have given him a shot later in the season he’d have shot it. Would he have just walked past the rack if this buck because he didn’t have a tag for it? Whatever don’t take a quartering to shot with a rage.
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Re: Should this count??

Unread postby Jonny » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:55 am

I don't think it should. Can't prove he killed it/shot it. I'm sure he did, but just walking up with a skeleton saying I shot this shouldn't warrant record books. At that point its no different than hitting one with your car.

Would love to read one article where I don't have to know exactly what broadhead, knife and nock the guy has. Kinda funny it was a rage broadhead though :lol:
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Re: Should this count??

Unread postby elk yinzer » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:02 am

No way in Hades. Should be in the books as a pick-up.
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Re: Should this count??

Unread postby mspaci » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:03 am

I think as record books go pick ups do count. Mike
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Unread postby muddy » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:04 am

If he gimped it and eventually found it, good for him. I'm not positive but if that happened here in Iowa you'd have to use a salvage tag. But, he's not in Iowa so if it's legal, and the game wardens dont care....

To answer the OP, no, I don't think he should get to enter into record books.
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Re: Should this count??

Unread postby JShea » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:10 am

mspaci wrote:I think as record books go pick ups do count. Mike


It went in as a bow kill. It baffles me how they put it in also.
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Re: Should this count??

Unread postby comeback_kid » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:27 am

Southern Man wrote:I didn't read the whole story but can he prove he killed it?

Yes he absolutely can....Because he has trail cam pics of the buck! :lol: :lol: :lol:

If I had a "kill" for every buck I got on trail cam....

I don't doubt he killed the buck, but it seems Pennsylvania's desire to prove they can produce big bucks has blinded them to a few issues.

Additionally, did anyone else notice this was a very suspect shot? "" Ron recalled. “At 32 yards the buck looked over his left shoulder, exposing his right shoulder and neck. That would be my only chance, so I let him have it where the shoulder meets the neck and I watched the green Lumenok disappear into him.”

Again, I am happy for the guy, but when's the last time you on purpose shot a deer in front of the shoulder where it meets the neck?
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Re: Should this count??

Unread postby Boogieman1 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:33 am

I don't think it should count eithier. I have killed 2 in my life that I made horrible shots on, both right in the guts. When I saw what I did I went home and got a gun (which was legal I was bowhunting during gun season) caught up with both and finished them as quick as I could. I don't count them as a bow kill. But I'm not gonna watch a animal suffer or risk losing one to make myself feel special.
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Re: Should this count??

Unread postby wolverinebuckman » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:43 am

Sounds like the record-keepers felt there was enough corroborating evidence to support that he actually shot this deer. If they feel that it meets their criteria for the record books then so be it.
IMO, very unethical shot. For me, if my desire for some bones becomes greater than the need to take a solid ethical kill shot, I would consider giving up the sport. This dude missed an easier broadside shot on a deer earlier, and then tries this shot? This guy sounds like he is just flinging arrows and hoping.
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Re: Should this count??

Unread postby BradC36 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:46 am

I think this is absurd as well, should absolutely not count.

The PA game commission is obviously doing this because they want to show hunters it was THEIR implementation of AR and THEIR public game lands that produced this buck. Probably hoping for more license sales after the decrease in recent years...
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Re: Should this count??

Unread postby Boogieman1 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:49 am

wolverinebuckman wrote:Sounds like the record-keepers felt there was enough corroborating evidence to support that he actually shot this deer. If they feel that it meets their criteria for the record books then so be it.
IMO, very unethical shot. For me, if my desire for some bones becomes greater than the need to take a solid ethical kill shot, I would consider giving up the sport. This dude missed an easier broadside shot on a deer earlier, and then tries this shot? This guy sounds like he is just flinging arrows and hoping.


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Re: Should this count??

Unread postby llcooljames » Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:25 am

I dont think it should count. Cool that he found it though.

Terrible shot placement, there was no ethics involved in that kill. Funny it was a rage broadhead. It sounds like the guy needs to practice more this off season.


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