burkhart wrote:Ack wrote:Ok, so next question......
You are hunting a specific bird on your property....maybe he is the only one there and you can easily identify him. You move in to hunt him and call to him with your go-to call and he will not respond. Two days later you go back to hunt him, and using the same exact call he comes in on a string. Was he "call shy" the first time you hunted him, or just not interested that particular day?
Basically what I am getting at is that there are countless reasons why a bird will or will not respond to a call from one day to the next, and it is not because they are "shy" of the call. Every single turkey call on the market has the capability of sounding like a live turkey. I've heard some gawd awful sounding hens out in the wild, and have also heard many different variations of how they communicate.....if you are using a call it's VERY hard to not sound like a turkey. They don't know the difference.
Birds are shy of humans, not turkey calls. Oldrank nailed it when he mentioned negative encounters.....THAT is what will make a bird cautious, not them hearing a turkey that yelps 20 times in a row.
Like I stated before Im not in the call shy camp. However I do disagree that the tom does know the difference and /or can associate your calls to danger to some extent. Im sure (myself included). Have call sequences and styles we like and use. So if i go after the same bird every day with these same calls. I believe he will pick up that the hen over there never moves. And to throw oldranks theory(which is GREAT point) every time I do go over there I get shot at.. He will eventually sit in the middle of his "safe zone" and quietly hang out...or in Bighunts experience run way...
Ack I do think you've brought up a few point we need to discuss for the sake of this thread and that's the other factors that cause him not to gobble and what to do. Ack, bighunt, oldrank whomever, plz share your observations and tactics on what to do.
My observations on why birds wont gobble
1. has hens with him already.
2. Bad experience/ hunting pressure
3. Barometeric pressure??? (Fronts)
I've never payed attention to barometric pressure. I will this year. That is interesting.
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